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#RakeStandardization
1- 2AC removed and 1- 3AC removed and in place of that D3 and S8 are added. This train has been running with 7-3AC and 3-2AC since years now it is reduced in the name of rake standardisation. Aise kya majburi aa gayi hai ki ek bhi train ka ye log dedicated coach composition maintain nahi kar sakte.
1- 2AC removed and 1- 3AC removed and in place of that D3 and S8 are added. This train has been running with 7-3AC and 3-2AC since years now it is reduced in the name of rake standardisation. Aise kya majburi aa gayi hai ki ek bhi train ka ye log dedicated coach composition maintain nahi kar sakte.
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This means Prayagraj Express and Lucknow Mail ka bhi unique CC change ho jayega due to this
ye pahli train mili jika Rake Standardization ke baad AC remove hua aur SL badha.. 😅
1. Gujarat Mail
2. Lucknow Mail
3. Pandian Express
These were the original trains which had more AC than sleeper right from their ICF days. But Today with this useless decision of rake standardisation every other train is getting huge no. Of AC coaches without any potential to completely fill them but there was a time when only these trains had more AC...
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2. Lucknow Mail
3. Pandian Express
These were the original trains which had more AC than sleeper right from their ICF days. But Today with this useless decision of rake standardisation every other train is getting huge no. Of AC coaches without any potential to completely fill them but there was a time when only these trains had more AC...
more...
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SCR trains have benefited coz of increase in AC coaches. Narayanadri, Telangana, Rayalaseema, Charminar etc r running with 9/10 AC coaches n still with heavy WL.
Impact of rake standardisation has been different in each individual train, some have benefitted some have not on one hand the trains that you have mentioned, they are high demand popular trains, ideally they needed a clone trains in this route, profits could have been earned by introducing another train not at the cost of reducing the options for sleeper class on the other hand there are trains of UP, Bihar which connects the most remotest villages have been badly affected due to this
& PLAN for RE-NUMBERING of trains
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Kolkata Leg | 14 Jul 2018
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Schedule of no train turn out as forerunner of Mail in PIC5: 1876.
Nov 1864 & Feb 1865 trains were just extension of Ordinary which Departed Bombay & ADI at morning.
Inauguration Year undoubtedly isnt before 1869 (at least)!!
Attached Pic from click here (1867-68) informs Grant Road to Colaba isnt finished yet!! click here tells Churchgate was connected in 1870 & Colaba in 1873!! click here Tells Direct ADI-Bombay train happened in 1870!!
So far Gujarat Mail Forerunner doesnt seems before 1870.
Pic2: click here Evening Departure treated as Mail whose Arrival at Baroda sync with Pic5 of First Post. Pic3 of 1889 Display further sped up of Mail past Nerbudda Bridge completion.
Its 18.1.1870 as the first run for Gujarat Mail. Anyone can provide valuable evidence to challenge the same!!
Pic 2 (Date Unknown) vs Pic 3 shows: 9 AM Through Ordinary become 10 AM Ordinary. 17:30 Virar Ordinary become 18:00 Virar Ordinary. 17:20 Slot of Ordinary taken over by Gujarat Mail as new 4th Train (which dont exist in May 1867 Pic 3)!!
This Night Mail Run may have some Link with Pic 4 where Night Mail Service was pushed for Bombay-Calcutta!! Dec 9 1875 is the earliest link for Gujarat Mail found so far!!